New race/Earth ships

Some Strange Man · Post by **Some Strange Man** » Sun, 26. Dec 04, 15:20

Well, since the title of the upcoming X-pansion is The Return, we have to assume that either the ancients are returning, or there is a return to Earth....

So, if we return to earth, the Earth ships are gonna need names.

Any suggestions for Earth Ships?

Or, if the Ancients return, their ships are also going to need names, and possibly a name for their race/component races.

So, suggestions for Earth ships, Ancient Races and ships please.

[I'm gonna post this on devnet once I get some good suggestions]

DrCBVI · Post by **DrCBVI** » Sun, 26. Dec 04, 15:50

Assuming, of course, Earth/Ancients have anything at all to with it.

It could be something more simple like the return to the X-Universe...

Or the Khaak en masse.

Or the thing concerning the end of the last level.

Mercz · Post by **Mercz** » Sun, 26. Dec 04, 16:35

I'm guessing earth ships should be heavilly advanced and have the best weapons.

The ancients should have the best ships and have crystal like structures in ships.

Other ships- more xenon ships
more pirate ships
An "official" x-shuttle

ELL · Post by **ELL** » Sun, 26. Dec 04, 17:31

I got some names for Earth Fleet ships

Venture - M5 scout
Valkury - M4 light fighter
Vengeance - M3 fighter
Centurion - M6 corvet / frigate
Retribution - M2 destroyer / cruiser
Independence - M1 carrier

Freedom - TP (This ship should look like the american space shuttle)
Deliverance - TS
Distribute - TL

Free Trade Inn · Post by **Free Trade Inn** » Sun, 26. Dec 04, 19:09

Pyramid-punisher
Triangle-trouncer
Cluster-buster
Kylon-killer
Khaak-sreader
My origional M6 fleet actualy

Chris H · Post by **Chris H** » Mon, 27. Dec 04, 00:00

Humm, knowing Egosoft, the names of the ships will have nothing to do with the race. So dont get your hopes up for names like the "earthworm".

Also the names wont be singular names. Saying I have "3 Veneance's" or "a fleet of Independence's" are both a bit of a mouthful.

Free Trade Inn, there is allready a ship called "Buster". (Argon Buster)

I think some names will be quite basic, like "Hauler" for a TP. Im not saying this to put down Egosofts creativity, but thats what a TP is, so why does it need a fancy name?

Hopefully Egosoft wont go too generic and name some ships stuff like "Starcruiser"...

BigStone · Post by **BigStone** » Mon, 27. Dec 04, 00:22

Some Strange Man wrote:Any suggestions for Earth Ships?

Enterprise ...

Cheers

Nyax · Post by **Nyax** » Mon, 27. Dec 04, 02:44

Blander-prise is more like it

Technetium · Post by **Technetium** » Mon, 27. Dec 04, 20:11

hmm

Defiant --- it is the coolest ship ever!
Sovereign --- Plain... cool

Star Trek is cool.. no discussion...

I always liked the Split Mamba... with two Beta High Energy Plasma Throwers it look a bit like a Bird of Prey!

ELL · Post by **ELL** » Mon, 27. Dec 04, 23:15

now that i look at it the names are kinda long

Graaf · Post by **Graaf** » Mon, 27. Dec 04, 23:32

So dont get your hopes up for names like the "earthworm".

now that i look at it the names are kinda long

To keep things simple we use the acronym Jim

AdmiralTigerclaw · Post by **AdmiralTigerclaw** » Tue, 28. Dec 04, 06:21

If Earth is back... its ships should rock.
More than likely, it will be refered to as Terrans as a race if it does appear.

Aeon Class Battlecruiser (M0 DUN DUN DUNNN!!!)
- An extremely powerful combat vessel designed spacifically for OWNING anything and everything in site. If you wanted to compair it to anything... it would have the firepower akin to an Imperator II class Star Destroyer. (Impstar Deux) However, this ship is rather slow, but its mere pressence can deter even a large task force.

Millenium Class SuperCarrier (M1)
- Terran supercarriers are jewels of any fleet. These large and extremely powerful capital ships boast incredible speed and excelent shields. Terran governments were always in a policy of rapid response times and unyielding force in the face of hostile forces after the Terraformer catastrophy. One carrier can be known to carry as many as a hundred starfighters and always has a squadron on alert status.

Century Class Escort Destroyer (M2)
- Found anywhere you find a Millenium, the Century Class is a powerful fleet escort destroyer specializing in fast and decicive capital ship combat. Its turrets have EXCELENT overlapping fire zones that allow for the maximum amount of cover fire against smaller ships, while it can still pour a devastating amount of energy into any single large target. Their high speed and above average manueverability help to increase their abilities as force multipliers.

Generation Class Strike Corvette (M6)
- Designed with long range firepower in mind, the Generation Class hosts some of the best sensor systems and targeting computers of any ship. It's high speed, and long range forward weapons allow it to attack targets safely from a distance, and run away without ever being engaged themselves. However, should the faster star fighters catch it, it's twin mounted up and down turrets are more than capable of defending the vessel from ships small enough, and fast enough to catch up.

Viper Heavy Starfighter (M3)
- The Viper is a powerful attack starfighter, with a strong offense capability and high speed. Pilots are trained to be the best of the best, and the ship was designed for maximum survivability. Despite lacking in shields... it's awesome accelleration/deceleration, and strong arsenal give it the combat edge against almost any foe.

Lightning Interceptor (M4)
- Small, fast, agile. The first line of defense in any carrier fleet is the Lightning. Although only mildly armed, the Lightning is a fighter that is hard to hit, and will sit on the tail of an opponent, mercilessly pounding away to get the job done. Because of their speed, they can engage the enemy farther away, and quicker than almost any other capable fighter. Many Lightnings can very quickly overwhelm slower vessels and even dog larger ships to a standstill.

Mouse Scout Fighter (M5)
- The fastest and weakest of any starfighter. The Mouse is an excelent missile interceptor and unbeatable courier in a firefight. It's high top speed, small size, and gut wrenching manueverability make it the prime choice for anyone who has to fly the gauntlet and make it through in one piece.

Mmmmmmmmm.... Carrier Fleets...

cynric · Post by **cynric** » Tue, 28. Dec 04, 14:57

Mercz wrote:I'm guessing earth ships should be heavilly advanced and have the best weapons.

Actually, I don't think so. Earth had no contact to any alien race ever, no conflict in space since the terraformer wars (which came from earth so no new "alien" technology there), no connection to the gate system for hundreds of years.

So my guess would be: lower quality weapons (no need, experience) but great interplanetary drives (space is BIG when you don't use jump gates) and possibly good shields (needed agains radiation/micro asteroids etc. at high velocities).

AdmiralTigerclaw · Post by **AdmiralTigerclaw** » Tue, 28. Dec 04, 15:25

Maybe, maybe not. Just because the X-Universe doesn't have a jumpgate to Earth, doesn't mean the Earth doesn't have jumpgates to WHO KNOWS wherever else.

There is also the unknown drive. If you're not sure what's out there... you're driven to develope as much power as you can as fast as you can in order to compensate for what you can't see.

And if what I read from the X-History (Courtosy of the XAI Corp Website...) is true... The Argon had to develope themselves a new civilization after being cut off from Earth. That means new population base, new resource base, new government... etc. Setting that up can put you behind in other fields.

And of course, Earth might also not be completely unified... and perhaps Sol has several seperate planetary Govt's gunning for power and tensions could be high. Even if Earth suffered massive catastrophies due to the Terraformers, it's infrastructure would be far superior to the Argon and would already have established scientific research going on. Argon may have gotten help from the other races, but only just... If I could speculate... at best they started with a fraction of what Earth already has.

Heck, Earth probably has Hyperdrive. (Gateless Jumpdrive.)
Of course, this is merely speculation.

Nyax · Post by **Nyax** » Tue, 28. Dec 04, 16:04

Actually, I don't think so. Earth had no contact to any alien race ever, no conflict in space since the terraformer wars (which came from earth so no new "alien" technology there), no connection to the gate system for hundreds of years.

All true, but all fairly irrelevant. None of the X2 races have the technology level to work out how Jumpgates work. Earth not only figured it out on their own unaided, but also built their own gates something like 6 or 7 hundred years ago.

Now admitedly they did spend several hundred years rebuilding after the terraformer wars, but they would still be technologically, hundreds of years ahead of any of the X races. Plus, given the known threat of the Terraformers, it's highly unlikely that weapons development has been completely ignored in the intervening centuries.

Also how do you know Earth hasn't been in a conflict since the terraformer wars? we do have a fairly well estanlished track record for fighting amongst ourselves.

Heck, Earth probably has Hyperdrive. (Gateless Jumpdrive.)

Well actually we KNOW that they do. That's how Kyle and Elanna wound up in the X universe.

Maybe, maybe not. Just because the X-Universe doesn't have a jumpgate to Earth, doesn't mean the Earth doesn't have jumpgates to WHO KNOWS wherever else.

Actually i doubt they do have any jump gates. They know how to build them, but are refraining from doing so in case they accidently let the Terraformers back to Earth.

Some Strange Man · Post by **Some Strange Man** » Tue, 28. Dec 04, 17:05

cynric wrote:
Mercz wrote:I'm guessing earth ships should be heavilly advanced and have the best weapons.
Actually, I don't think so. Earth had no contact to any alien race ever, no conflict in space since the terraformer wars (which came from earth so no new "alien" technology there), no connection to the gate system for hundreds of years.

So my guess would be: lower quality weapons (no need, experience) but great interplanetary drives (space is BIG when you don't use jump gates) and possibly good shields (needed agains radiation/micro asteroids etc. at high velocities).

That doesn't quite make sense.

Bigger shields? They'd have to design ships and therefore weapons to take them out in case some nutcases got their hands on some.

More likely: the weapons would have developed along a different path, so while the X-Verse has Ion Disruptors, Mass Drivers and PSGs, earth may have EMP (perhaps make that affect the engine once the shields are gone), railguns (low ROF MD's, but massive damage) and swarm missiles (akin to a clusterbomb).

Free Trade Inn · Post by **Free Trade Inn** » Tue, 28. Dec 04, 17:39

Chris H wrote

Free Trade Inn, there is allready a ship called "Buster". (Argon Buster)

You do know that I was jokeing?
They do exist in my game as I origionaly wanted to give all stations and ships funny names. Mind you I'm just about on to my 200th fab so I gave it up a long time ago.

kenf22 · Post by **kenf22** » Tue, 28. Dec 04, 19:37

Or, if the Ancients return, their ships are also going to need names, and possibly a name for their race/component races.

So, suggestions for Earth ships, Ancient Races and ships please

Um, did I miss something

Who are the Ancients? If you mean the gate builders, that was Earth. It has been a long time since I played the first X game, so I may be mistaken.

Some Strange Man · Post by **Some Strange Man** » Tue, 28. Dec 04, 20:04

kenf22 wrote:
Or, if the Ancients return, their ships are also going to need names, and possibly a name for their race/component races.

So, suggestions for Earth ships, Ancient Races and ships please
Um, did I miss something Who are the Ancients? If you mean the gate builders, that was Earth. It has been a long time since I played the first X game, so I may be mistaken.

According to Argonopedia earth only made like 3 gates, and they somehow got connected to the rest of them, the ancients had made the rest of them. The ancients were led by robots of some description IIRC.

You've been watching too much Stargate

AdmiralTigerclaw · Post by **AdmiralTigerclaw** » Tue, 28. Dec 04, 23:17

Somehow got connected to the others?

Eh... Washu let Mihoshi get to close to her lab equipment again.

I don't know about you guys... but MY ship would wipe out the sector area of Argon Prime in one shot. After all, that's what subspace shockwave cannons are good for, especially the Capital Grade. (NOTE: I wouldn't go blowing up argon prime. That would be a whole lot of deaths on this fleet commander's hands. I don't need em.)

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