[Help] Can you make a guided "bullet" or non-missile energy weapon with guided shots?

[HelicopterGearbox]

Is there a way to make an energy weapon (IE, pulse laser) have shots that track their targets like missiles?

Been messing with the Teladi Main battery macro file for a few hours.

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<macros>
  <macro name="bullet_tel_l_laser_01_mk1_macro" class="bullet">
    <component ref="bullet_tel_l_laser_01_mk1" />
    <properties>
      <bullet speed="1659" lifetime="6.3" amount="1" barrelamount="1" icon="weapon_laser_mk1" timediff="0.002" angle="0.03" maxhits="1" ricochet="0" scale="0" attach="0" />
      <heat value="475" />
      <reload rate="1.44" />
      <damage value="1169" repair="0" />
      <effects>
        <impact ref="impact_gen_l_laser_01_mk1" />
        <bigobjectimpact ref="impact_gen_l_laser_01_mk1_bigobject" inside="impact_gen_l_laser_01_mk1_bigobject_inside" />
        <launch ref="muzzle_gen_l_laser_01_mk1" />
      </effects>
      <weapon system="weapon_standard" />
    </properties>
  </macro>
</macros>

It would seem based on the missile torpedo macro that you could tack

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guided="1"

onto the properties line, but this doesn't work. I

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<macros>
  <macro name="missile_torpedo_light_mk1_macro" class="missile">
    <component ref="missile_torpedo_light_mk1" />
    <properties>
      <identification name="{20105,6144}" basename="{20105,6141}" description="{20105,6142}" />
      <ammunition value="1" />
      <missile amount="1" barrelamount="1" lifetime="50" range="3000" guided="1" icon="hud_ms_torpedo_light_mk1" retarget="0" tags="torpedo" />
      <explosiondamage value="4791" />
      <reload time="10" />
      <hull max="8" />
      <effects>
        <explosion ref="missile_explosion_heavy_01" />
        <launch ref="missile_torpedo_muzzle" />
      </effects>
      <weapon system="torpedo" />
      <countermeasure resilience="0.98" />
       <physics mass="0.329">
        <inertia pitch="0.264" yaw="0.264" roll="0.264" />
        <drag forward="0.066" reverse="0.263" horizontal="0.472" vertical="0.472" pitch="0.125" yaw="0.125" roll="0.125" />
      </physics>
    </properties>
    <connections>
      <connection ref="con_engine01">
        <macro ref="engine_missile_guided_mk1_macro" connection="ship" />
      </connection>
    </connections>
  </macro>
</macros>

It seems like weapons are either unguided projectiles or guided missiles which require ammunition.

[linolafett]

I just poked around, this is not possible at the moment, but would be indeed very cool!

[HelicopterGearbox]

I just poked around, this is not possible at the moment, but would be indeed very cool!

Ok, thanks.

Is it possible to make a missile weapon that doesn't require ammunition? That might be the other way to do it.

[Rothank]

This (https://discord.com/channels/3370982909 ... 0603857971) Egosoft modding channel Discord post suggests that if you set up your weapon as a missile, but do NOT define an ammo ware - it should have infinite ammo.

I have not tried, but you could try giving it a shot.

[HelicopterGearbox]

This (https://discord.com/channels/3370982909 ... 0603857971) Egosoft modding channel Discord post suggests that if you set up your weapon as a missile, but do NOT define an ammo ware - it should have infinite ammo.

I have not tried, but you could try giving it a shot.

Thanks. Is this what you mean-IE, comment out the ammo ware from the weapon macro?:

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<diff> 
<replace sel="//macros">
<macros>
	 <macro name="weapon_tel_l_destroyer_01_mk1_macro" class="missilelauncher">
    <component ref="weapon_tel_l_destroyer_01_mk1" />
    <properties>
      <identification name="{20105,1164}" basename="{20105,1161}" shortname="{20105,1165}" description="{20105,1162}" unique="0" mk="1" />
<!--		<ammunition  tags="torpedo"/>-->
      <bullet class="bullet_tel_l_laser_01_mk1_macro" />
      <reload />
      <hull max="500" hittable="0" />
    </properties>
  </macro>
</macros>
</replace>
</diff>

This doesn't work-how do I set it up without a ware? Am I missing a file where the connection between the ammunition ware and the weapon firing is defined?

[Rothank]

Thanks. Is this what you mean-IE, comment out the ammo ware from the weapon macro?:

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<diff> 
<replace sel="//macros">
<macros>
	 <macro name="weapon_tel_l_destroyer_01_mk1_macro" class="missilelauncher">
    <component ref="weapon_tel_l_destroyer_01_mk1" />
    <properties>
      <identification name="{20105,1164}" basename="{20105,1161}" shortname="{20105,1165}" description="{20105,1162}" unique="0" mk="1" />
<!--		<ammunition  tags="torpedo"/>-->
      <bullet class="bullet_tel_l_laser_01_mk1_macro" />
      <reload />
      <hull max="500" hittable="0" />
    </properties>
  </macro>
</macros>
</replace>
</diff>

This doesn't work-how do I set it up without a ware? Am I missing a file where the connection between the ammunition ware and the weapon firing is defined?

That will definitely not work. You are still calling using bullet_tel_l_laser_01_mk1_macro.
If there is any chance of it working, you need to define you own custom macro based on a missile weapon and only remove the ammunition tag.
And, again, this is only my theory - I have not played around with infinite missiles myself yet.

[HelicopterGearbox]

Thanks. Is this what you mean-IE, comment out the ammo ware from the weapon macro?:

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<diff> 
<replace sel="//macros">
<macros>
	 <macro name="weapon_tel_l_destroyer_01_mk1_macro" class="missilelauncher">
    <component ref="weapon_tel_l_destroyer_01_mk1" />
    <properties>
      <identification name="{20105,1164}" basename="{20105,1161}" shortname="{20105,1165}" description="{20105,1162}" unique="0" mk="1" />
<!--		<ammunition  tags="torpedo"/>-->
      <bullet class="bullet_tel_l_laser_01_mk1_macro" />
      <reload />
      <hull max="500" hittable="0" />
    </properties>
  </macro>
</macros>
</replace>
</diff>

This doesn't work-how do I set it up without a ware? Am I missing a file where the connection between the ammunition ware and the weapon firing is defined?

That will definitely not work. You are still calling using bullet_tel_l_laser_01_mk1_macro.
If there is any chance of it working, you need to define you own custom macro based on a missile weapon and only remove the ammunition tag.
And, again, this is only my theory - I have not played around with infinite missiles myself yet.

Yes, I realized that very rapidly. Thanks.